Give COs the power back to Suspend people again. Coming from a member of the Royal Military Police I am so sick and tired of having to wait hours just for moderators to respond to our tickets. If we chase a RG down the mall and when we catch him he leaves and re-joins and does it over and over again moderators don’t do anything against it because its not a moderation offense. Its so annoying and it stops as from doing our job. We try and ignore it but everyone continues to tell us that there is an RG at here and there. We cannot continue to do this with the slow response time the moderation team has to our tickets. We have to just let people go at this point and we can’t do anything about it. I am sure its not just me who are tired and sick of this. It should be up to the Commissioned Officer, Chief Officer and Paramedic Managers teams to handle department issues. Not moderators, and if moderators to there needs to be a way for them to see tickets a lot quicker. We can’t do our jobs correctly because of the slow response time.
I’ll be honest here and say i’m pretty sure every single officer wants this change to happen. We have the same struggles as RMP where if we find a guardsmen breaking the rules we report them and then we have to wait over a day to hear back from LS moderation regarding the report.
And with Volute expanding onto different games such as FFM and soon hampshire, i have a feeling the waiting times will only lengthen as those games get more and more updates.
Eversince BP added this new system of moderation, i can’t join a server without seeing a guardsman or Lance Corporal shooting and discharging their firearm. Everytime i’m on civilian i’m either tased to leaving the game by a student constable or shot to death repeatedly by a guardsmen everytime i get to BP.
I absolutely do NOT agree COs shouldn’t have the ability to do that. THIS SHOULD NOT BE COMING BACK EVER AGAIN ALRIGHT?
(Coming from someone who had his qualification revoked)
I don’t understand the point of the new method for LS to have the power to sanction, Vegantoeses is right, the game is no longer fun because you just go in, get abused or killed, report that player, and he creates a new account and hours pass before LS responds. It just makes the game fun for that player who kills or abuses the taser on civilians. I don’t think it should work that way.
Well, using iamspeed930’s example, he does not want this change because it makes it easier for him to troll in game than when the CO had access to sanctions.
VeganToes, Harry and Suzi are all right on this matter, being an RG who likes to make sure there is a constant sense of peace at BP, can not have that for even 5 minutes because of the rouge guardsmen or as vegan highlighted, guardsmen discharging their firearm for no reason at all, this amount of rebellion was only ever countered or feared by the CO’s power, not that they are evil or doing the wrong thing, they were always exerting their authority when needed and for good reasons. Not even 2 hours ago there was a qualified RG in the server who asked me what to do about a guard who was talking about s*xual desires and I don’t think the guard who did this was sanctioned yet. Overall what I’m getting at, is the fact that the CO’s power to sanction gave many guardsmen the idea that they have to do the right thing at all times and keep their duty, now this understanding is non-existent and recruits are following suit on this image that they can do whatever they feel like, ruining the game experience.
YES ABSOLUTELY YES!! ( coming from someone who isn’t even a commissioned officer by the way )
As a former Royal Military Police, Lance Corporal, this suggestion is extremely important and should be implemented.
As a member of this community prior to sanctions being dealt with only by Liveshield, I would notice that the guard in general had more of a disciplined and focused attitude towards their role when we implemented and explained to them what their duties are.
However, ever since this new method of dealing with offences more lightly, I would notice users starting to feel that it’s completely okay to troll and disregard the in-game regulations.
Most common one being Absent without leave, post abandonment which Liveshield do not sanction for, whereas Commissioned Officers do. They do not realise how many guards do this, for me it is so common for guards to be roaming the map, but highly unrealistic which can cause the game to lose its Roleplay side of things.
It’s ridiculous to see that this new method isn’t working whatsoever and they are not doing anything to fix it!! People say it’s to “bring more player base with lighter sanctions” absolute rubbish!!! You are not only getting rid of the old player base, you are not even bringing any new people in!!
The game is struggling with this new system, and is driving everyone away. COs can’t be bothered capturing guards who run out constantly just to LTAA once caught and join back without any sanctions. They are sick and tired of it!!
Sort it out.
VeganToes, Harry, Suzi and IMSOGOODATTHISGA78 are all right on this matter because I can’t be bothered to yap and write but they all have good points.
Just to add some stuff in coming from the RMP Lt side of things, our jobs yes, they are meant to be to help people but some people take it too far. I can go into much detail about it, but what I will say is we find out it’s always the same people getting into trouble, and it’s things like running around outside BP or just not following any of the rules set out by the handbooks. I think that it needs a revamp where if they do something that is breaking the game rules that LS can handle (i.e., run around killing people), then that should be taken up to Lifeshield. But if it’s things like going AWOL, then we should have the power to do something about it too, as all they do is keep LTAAing then rejoining just to go run around outside again, which is taking our eyes to deal with one person away from everyone else that needs that help, which is why people are starting to get mad as we are spending most of our time on shift just running after 1 or 2 people.
I fully agree with this but owners will just end up refusing.
The issue isn’t actually Liveshield but at the same time it is. They have chosen to only uphold the handbooks if it is disrupting gameplay. The other rules such as running outside wont be handled as it doesn’t affect gameplay as much. Either way, it annoys CO’s and RMP.
I also understand completely the trust issues that come with this, however even involving Headquarters and Gold Command into theses for approvals or reviews could even work as that would still reduce the time spent waiting for moderators, and waiting for a sanction.
I also agree, they are making it unable for us to carry out our duties, as all we can really do is cuff them and put them in a car. There’s no way to deal with abusers in game atm, and frankly it makes the handbooks useless, if there are only sanctions for disrupting gameplay. Please reconsider and allow COs to sanction again.
bit of a party pooper but in my honest opinion itll most likely never be reversed
there are certain reasons as to why
I’ve had several instances with LS, that should be offences but aren’t, (ie: RG’s shooting their guns.) because they’re not “disrupting peoples gameplay” which is not right at all, it may not interfere with people gameplay but it’s completely unrealistic and ruins immersion for people.
You are so right, because at times they believe that guards first offence shouldn’t be sanctionable. It’s like guards do it on accident. 
So annoying.
mag dumps their entire L85
“Might’ve been an accident”
I completely agree with what everyone has said so far, there needs to be some kind of change. I understand, to some extent, why the developers decided to move player sanctioning within BP to LS. The goal was likely to create a more streamlined process and ensure that new players aren’t discouraged by being hit with team suspensions for rules they may not have known. However, this change has come at a significant cost to the experience of regular players, many of whom are beginning to lose interest in what was once a fun and engaging environment.
As a member of RMP, I’ve noticed a major increase in trolling since this change was implemented. These are players who know exactly what they’re doing and they know that there’s very little RMP/COs can do about it. The old system of taking offenders to RMP Wellington no longer works, as they simply LTAA and continue their behavior once they join back leaving us to look like fools. Previously, this process acted as a kind of “time out” until a CO could step in and sanction the RG accordingly . But now with that power taken away from CO’s and given to LS it has created long wait times on tickets leaving us to try and deal with trolls who roam freely, killing and disrupting gameplay without facing any consequences until they have decided that they no longer wish to ruin our gameplay.
Additionally, as a Chief Officer in MPS, I’ve seen both the old and new systems in action. I can admit that under the old system, some COs may have sanctioned players too strictly, which could negatively impact newer players still learning the ropes. But things have now swung too far in the opposite direction. Taser abuse and cuff abuse have gotten out of hand, and this is taking away from the experience of regular players. Restoring sanctioning powers to COs in MPS, RG, and LAS would help return the enjoyment to those who play the game regularly and take it seriously.
There’s also a cultural impact to consider. Back when the old system was in place and I joined RMP or MET, there was a strong sense of authority and respect associated with those roles. That in itself acted as a deterrent against trolling, players knew they would be dealt with swiftly, without being allowed to run rampant across the map leading us to look silly and powerless.
One solution that I could think of would be to reintroduce CO sanctioning power alongside a centralized “Guide” of some kind. This guide could clearly outline what COs can sanction players for, and what types of punishments are appropriate. Oversight could be provided by higher ranking COs within the respective teams. This system would still protect new players by ensuring fair treatment, while also allowing COs to take immediate action against trolls. It would also address the long wait times that currently contribute so heavily to the issue.
If you want a way to deal with guards; suggest a proper custody system in RMP Wellington for RMP/RG COs to use to arrest guardsman. That will have LTAA detection for guardsman meaning they go to jail anyway.