I genuinely hate the new PAVA rework as it makes it nearly impossible to deal with armed civilians close to you if you are unarmed. PLEASE revert this as its really annoying.
if i was mps id be angy too. but lowk shooting is more fun than just using pava.
everybody calm the freak down.
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Common uses of pava IRL is to temporarily reduce ones ability, typically one would “not be able to see what theyre doing” and suffere intense pain and reflex reaxtions by covering their face soemtimes etc or even panic response by letting go of actions
the past updates of PAVA being needed to refill is more than enough debuff and the fact that you can only spray it for x seconds and that it only works in a certain range is enough
Nowadays pava does nothing, you can still shoot fully automatically and still kill people especially whilst the constable is using pava to stop you from shooting which is what everyone is trained as seeing as thats how it used to be. You can also still see people very well.
Additionally “just using taser straight after” doesnt always work well either, one theyre still actively shooting, theyre just a lil tinted red and slowed down, bullets will still drop you by the time you can get a tase off, also half the time tasers bug and end up unloaded even though you just reloaded it.
PAVA has just became more useless for day to day policing, like now it is one of the worst things and for divisions and teams who rely on it its just became more stupid and defeats the entire point of it
TSG use it in cordons to deal with people jumping the front rank
COVERT use it to be able to blind and apprehend a shooter descreetly, its obvious to see someone aiming a taser at you regardless of where they are
Unarmed units use it a lot too
Armed units use it for breaching corners when you know theres someone there and you would most likely miss with a taser.
Like its now stupid, the last update was a fine enough nerf but now all the devs are doing is nerfing everything just because the majority of the playerbase is civilian or OCG.
Like even the audi which had the same driftablity as the 530 is now hard asf to drift. in addition to now useless car upgrades weve spent 15-20k+ now becoming obsolete from it.
I think we should go back tot he old pava, it was fine how it is, its incredibly unlikely you get PAVAd and you are still able to shoot unless youve had like military training or something stupid like that, civilians dont have that.
Old pava was fine, you could only spray like 3 seconds or sum, they had to be relatively close to you (any armed civ that shoots close to you is stupid in their own right) and the fact that you had to refill it, maybe just reduce the capacity of PAVA so that it has to be refilled mroe regularly, the refilling thing is nice currently but ive never had it run out, even after spraying it really often
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Sorry ghostgamer, you know I like you, however the PAVA rework was amazing, you can still tase people.
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To make it good for everyone, make pava put away their weapon and reduce visibility, but the civilian can still have movement that is not restricted. For example: Im shooting at BP and i get PAVA’d; i cant see much, and my weapon is put away, BUT i can still run around without my movement being slow.
mo19 when being told to use their gun instead of Pava 
We do need this, specifically for TSG. We, as Secondary Rank Officers in a PO Response utilise PAVA quite a bit, and it can be very hard for us to actually conduct our duties, as TSG Officers
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That’s why they provide you with a taser when you’re on duty.
I love how nearly everyone saying it was a good update is in a current OCG… Of course it’s a lovely update for you guys because it downgrades us.
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Genuinely, have you not seen how many nerfs civilians have been dealing with lately? Supercars have had their top speeds reduced, heists have been nerfed multiple times, and MPS got free body armor brought back. It’s been one change after another, and most of them hit civs the hardest.
Aand honestly, PAVA was way too overpowered. Every cop was just sprinting straight at you and spamming it, which made it almost impossible to react or escape. There was barely any counterplay; it didn’t matter how well you planned things, you’d still get shut down instantly.
This update actually brings some balance back. Now it feels like you at least have a fair chance to defend yourself, avoid getting arrested so easily, and actually stand your ground against MPS instead of being completely overwhelmed every time.
The aim for the PAVA change was to stop PAVA being used offensively although we admittedly have reduced it’s effectiveness to a point where it’s practically useless by doing so. The problem we identified is that people were using PAVA as an offensive tool which civilians had no means of countering other than making sure they only took long-distance engagements, and we made numerous to try combat this.
In doing so, PAVA is now no longer an effective tool at anything other than blinding a suspect.
We will be reverting this change in the next update and will continue to explore alternatives to avoid “pava rush” and the tool being used offensively. We are always happy to hear suggestions.
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Also, why is PAVA getting nerfed the hell out of. First it has a limit and now it doesnt even unequip their guns, genuinely what is the point of that.
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Just get good aim with a taser or dont try to arrest armed civilians, it’s not yer job
Pava got nerfed a lot due to people saying it’s not realistic that you drop your guns, but the signs of being tear gassed is you either scratch your eyes due to the pain you are suffering in your eyes, forcing you to drop your weapon or being either aggresive and blindly attack, and I think there should be a 1 out 4 chance you get to keep your gun according to my statements and POVs.
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The rework was done for a reason. You can tase people still.
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