The current balance around the MO19 is honestly getting out of hand. Right now, they feel way too overpowered, especially when it comes to survivability. It takes around two to three full magazines just to take down a single MO19, which makes fights feel less about skill and more about who has more ammo or patience. It legit feels better to just avoid them than actually try to shoot and take them down. That kind of durability slows down gameplay and makes encounters frustrating rather than fun or competitive.
A big part of the issue seems to be their body armor. It feels overtuned to the point where most weapons barely make a dent unless you commit heavily. Lowering their body armor to around 30% would make a huge difference. It would still keep them strong and viable, but not nearly as oppressive as they are now. Players should feel rewarded for landing shots, not punished because the target can soak up absurd amounts of damage.
On top of that, the SIG MCX also needs some attention. Right now, it pairs too well with the already strong MO19 setup, making the combination feel dominant in almost every scenario. Whether it’s the damage output, recoil control, or overall efficiency, something about it pushes it beyond what feels fair. Toning it down slightly would help bring more balance and encourage variety in weapon choices.
Overall, the goal isn’t to make MO19 weak. It’s to make them fair. Adjusting their armor and slightly nerfing the SIG MCX would go a long way toward creating a more balanced and enjoyable experience for everyone.
AI isnt necessary when writing suggestions. Also, if it takes you 3 mags to kill an MO19 then I believe the weapon might not be the issue
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i think right now it’s fine, yes theyre a bit strong maybe too strong but their managable
Them all disliking this post bc its criticising mo19 is laughable tho. Be constructive theres always gonna be 2 sides
I’ve heard from multiple people that the SIG MCX has in fact been nerfed. The difference from what it was a few weeks ago is noticable. So, SIG MCX nerfed (from what it feels like) there’s no guarntee for this. Pava has been nerfed majorly, to the point where it is no longer useful when we’re dealing with large quantities of people. Something to take into account is your skill. It’s not always the game, armour, and damage statistics. I can’t wrap my head around certain people wanting MO19 to be nerfed. There’s nothing overpowered about us. Just maybe up your skill, it may fix these issues.
Oh and may I add that vehicle for all teams have all been nerfed/downgraded as you may know. This also affects us!
The reality here is that MO19 is known for dealing with Organized Criminal Groups who are in groups of 3-4 people (all armed with MP10 / Famas / UMP) and nerfing our armour will kind of make this unfair for these instances.
I understand that fighting a MO19 SFO when you’re alone feels unfair, but it’s actually realistic. Met Operations 19 are the only (as of now) specialized firearms division of the Metropolitan Police Service, that’s why it is pretty obvious they have more perks than regular ARV’s.
However, keep in mind that we also had been nerfed a lot recently especially with the replacement of the Sig Sauer MCX which is not that good compared to the old one, and the huge nerf of PAVA which was one of the most useful tools to us.
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“The current balance around the MO19 is honestly getting out of hand. Right now, they feel way too overpowered, especially when it comes to survivability.” We are not overpowered, yes we get more utilities than civilian does, but civilians have more guns that have faster fire rate, and more damage than our SIG MCX.
“It takes around two to three full magazines just to take down a single MO19” this doesn’t make sense for me, i usually take 1 to 1.5 mags to kill MO19, RMP or GG in combats ( i don’t usually do it but that what mostly happen ).
“A big part of the issue seems to be their body armor.” You can buy the same type of armor that MO19 offers.
“Lowering their body armor to around 30% would make a huge difference.” Doesn’t make sense as this is the Armed police, PADP, and Police sniper body armor, as this won’t distinguish MO19 and ARV, the perks of MO19, is having more utilities, perks, advantages than ARVs, so lowering them doesn’t make sense at all.
“the SIG MCX also needs some attention. Right now, it pairs too well with the already strong MO19 setup” the SIG MCX was already nerfed a lot as it used to before, it was really good and can match to the MP10, now, it doesn’t with his lowered firerate, and probably can be compared to an UMP-45 or so in terms of speed,
notice how its all mo19 downvoting this to hell
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I honestly disagree, as hard as it is to take down a MO19 officer they are the only trained firearms officer in the MET community. We could get a buff to help with this but it is up to the devs.
Civilians can also purchase 50% Body Armour, same as what MO19 has; there is no advantage for MO19 currently in-game, Civilians have the same vehicles as such excluding an XC90 which was also recently nerfed in Content Update 6.
Civilians have it very well at the moment compared to Met exclusively Met Operations 19, the Sig MCX currently does 121 damage to the head, they would not be hitting all headshots, so that damage is even lower.
I am not seeing your point in this suggestion, it is actually easier for AFO’s to play on ARV for a faster version of the XC90 and a better gun, this is not an MO19 issue.
As Unitpotatoo said if you’re taking 3 mags to kill an MO19 Officer you should look at who’s shooting it before making a suggestion to nerf an already downsided division.
I could kill an MO19 officer with half an MP10 mag, Happened just yesterday, Had to aim for the head and land 100% of the shots, sometime later I was up against MO19, but I had a pistol, so I gave up because I knew MO19 isnt dying to a pistol.
i think people need to realize that “mo19 being overpowered” and you being bad at shooting is two diff things.
It’s not that hard to kill an MO19 officer just hit their heads, they all abandon their cover anyways just to rush you and die
Generally speaking, MO19 are meant to be a formidable adversary for any criminal who encounters them and they need to be able to commit heavily to a fight in order to win it; you won’t be able to solo a group of 4 MO19 with just yourself and an MP10.
We can look at re-evaluating their body armour (as we stated when we re-enabled body armour - we are collecting data so we can balance it fairly) but it must be remembered that civilians can purchase body armour too, and this is advisable if they intend to be picking fights with MO19. We also look into re-evaluating the effectiveness of MO19’s vehicle availability - they are designed to be stronger durability/armour-wise but not as effective for speed, unlike MO8 which is the opposite.
The SIG MCX won’t be adjusted - as we have repeatedly stated publicly, it is not as overpowered as people are led to believe and this is only thought to be the case because of the illusion that MO19 are good so they must have a good weapon. Most mainstream civilian weapons are on-par, if not better, than the SIG MCX.
Thanks for making a suggestion - your feedback is valuable.
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I have a few points to make
- As was pointed out by Kaitlyn, body armour is negligible, you can buy 50% body armour too.
- Civilians get the advantage of having the first shot. MO19 and Met always have to react to a shooter, so if you pick the right moment, it’s not impossible to kill us.
- As facility pointed out, MO19 are equipped and trained to respond to OCG shootouts, with many armed civilians, so it might seem overpowered when there’s only one of you, this is an unfortunate consequence of picking a fight with MO19 solo, you should just expect this.
- I also think that a lot of MO19’s ability does not come from the equipment we use. Of course this will have some influence but if you took MO19 officers and put us on ARV with the G36K, you should expect similar results. This is for 2 reasons:
- This is predominantly because MO19 only accepts the best of met, and so naturally, we have constables with good reflexes and who are good at PvP in BP.
- We also undergo extensive training that equip us with the tactics and skills to deal with armed individuals. It’s less down to the equipment than it is just the skill and training, and as Kaitlyn and Unit said, at some point it stops being about the weaponry and starts being about the person using the weapon.
- Finally, I agree with unit’s point of using AI. If you make a suggestion then you should be the one making it. ChatGPT has never played BP and therefore doesn’t know what it’s talking about. Suggestions are where you should make your feelings clear, and if AI writes them then they are not YOUR feelings.
Completely agree. The MO19 SFT is practically a meat shield in the game now. You would never guess that he would survive being hit by a full UMP 45 (25 bullets). Moreover, their bulletproof vests offer at least 40%-65% protection.
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