Before all the roblox gangsters start to hate on this how unfair it is to them that they have to pay, your cars unlike our (specialists cars) are permanent, you don’t lose them if you switch groups, whereas Specialist cars are locked behind a certain group and resigning just means you wasted tons on money on a car that you’re not going to use anymore, and default cars are unbearable and unefficient against maxxed out ferraris / mclarens. Therefore vehicle upgrades for specialists should be free (government funded since they are government property), and those who already spent money should get refunded, cheers
I completely agree. Especially because if we ever leave the division (whatever it may be), we will be left with a huge, irrecoverable loss of money, since the vehicles do not belong to us; they are only ours during our period of activity in the division.
I would like to say. Yes, I agree.
I agree to this.
This has my vote to a point. I believe the durability upgrade should be free but say the brakes shouldn’t. Potentially they could be at a discounted rate rather than completely free!
I partially agree with this suggestion, I do agree that specialists should have free car upgrades but the way I see it, it should be “given” in a different way.
Context
Go straight to the Suggestion section if you want to skip the yap
From a realistic standpoint, it makes sense that the vehicles and equipment we receive, alongside any upgrades and maintenance, is free for specialists to receive as they’re quite literally a government agency.
In the context of BP, they have displayed their competences, even if some might disagree, by passing applications and training for a specific team, earning them the privilege of their tools which they reveive free of charge.
If we look at the way things are today, in terms of vehicle at least, it’s quite evident that MPS/RG is far outclassed by civilians in the fleet of vehicles which is available to them, both in variety and stats.
Some will of course disagree stating that it’s “hard” for civilians to get access to the “end-game” vehicles such as the mclaren, but the reality is that they are ever present in the game. There is not a single server in which me and a lot of other specialists have not been rammed or just witnessed someone being rammed by mclarens and the like, from what I’ve seen of conversations held in specialists channels.
This does put into question the reality of the “balance” which many claim to uphold, although only when it benefits them. And this is true on boths side, MPS/RG/LAS and civilian alike. Do not that I’m only talking about vehicles here, I’m not going to launch a whole debate in firearms.
Suggestion
The way I would like to see free upgrades implemented is through a gradual system. Instead of specialists having to swipe the credit card or spend the equivalent of a full time job, for upgrades that are arguably still vastly inferior to what is available to civilians, I believe specialists should be “awarded” these upgrades by their respective Regiment HQ/Silver Command.
These upgrades would be gradual, allowing some time to pass between each. The first way for a specialist to be awarded an upgrade would be to demonstrate a high level of proeficiency in a certain domain for a given stat. (ex, TPAC for armor rating, chases for engine rating, etc). This could be graded through both actual situations or practical evaluations held semi periodically. Additionally, seniority of a given individual could also be taken as a parameter and would either boost or deboost someone in getting a such upgrade.
Furthermore, specialists are after all specialists, and depending on their team they should be given certain “low-level” upgrades as a “starter package”, to reward them in succeeding at getting into a division. (Ex, MO8 could start with Level 1-2 engine rating whereas MO19 could start with Level 1-2 armor rating). Obviously, this should not be exclusive to any team but be possible accross all divisions and all teams, whether RG, MPS or LAS.
Through this, we keep some form of progression which does not require large quantities of money but rather skill, which is after all what is most valued in specialist divisions, compared to having a mastercard.
One point which I’m sure will not be liked by specialists, is that this could also be proposed to civilians under the form of contests. With certain divisions being able to award certain upgrades to civilians, that way they are not left out.
N.B:
Take this more as a shower though than anything else really. Just though about it as I wrote it in like 5 minutes, so not at all something stuctured. Might even contradict myself at times idk lol.
Oh and InterrogatedAlien made a good point, specialist vehicles are not permanent and can be lost by either resigning, transfering or being discharged. Which would make the 100k+ you spend on maxing your car completely useless, with no way of regaining it. This does make specialist less likely to use their cash on upgrades for a specialist vehicle.
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got a master degree in yaponology
I disagree. You should pay like us civilians for the upgrades, regardless of whether you are in a specialist division or not. I would only change my mind if MO8/MO19 stopped giving up on the first part of a pursuit because they can’t reach the speeds us civilians can, in that case, I would say they should be able to get their upgrades INCLUDED, not for free, as they are specialists.
I thought I yapped a lot, I agree, never seen something so detailed, but I suppose that’s a good thing in a way, he told us everything you would want to know…
Why would they pursue a supercar that they can not match the speed of? It’s pointless and just risks other civs getting hit.
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Why don’t we look for solutions rather than not? This is in the interest of both civilians and division members. I don’t use a supercar, rather a Tesla yet MO8/MO19 don’t pursue me so what I’m saying is they can get their upgrades included as long as they actually make an effort to pursue people if they do. Solutions will get us somewhere, dismissing them from the start will not!
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You have misread my reply and your original comment.
This sounds good
I have not, you just think you know more than everyone else. Please back your last comments up with facts before coming at me totally disregarding what I have said and I mean that with no disrespect at all, that’s just how I feel about this. I have not said I agree with this suggestion yet I am suggesting myself ways in which it would be fair for both civilians and police. Again, like last time, I think we should leave it here because whenever I suggest something relating to the police, which is your most treasured thing clearly, I am not allowed to have a say because you insist to shut me down at every step of the way.
You said “I would only change my mind if MO8/MO19 stopped giving up on the first part of a pursuit because they can’t reach the speeds us civilians can”
I replied “Why would they pursue a supercar that they can not match the speed of? It’s pointless and just risks other civs getting hit.”
You then said this “Why don’t we look for solutions rather than not? This is in the interest of both civilians and division members. I don’t use a supercar, rather a Tesla yet MO8/MO19 don’t pursue me so what I’m saying is they can get their upgrades included as long as they actually make an effort to pursue people if they do. Solutions will get us somewhere, dismissing them from the start will not!”
Which has nothing to do with what the conversation was about.
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Let’s leave it there thank you. We will never agree.
Its not even a disagreement, it is just not even about what I was replying to.
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I could see this being implemented, it is certainly unfair for specialist divisions to spend so much time doing their applications, and trainings/ set modules just to get thrown around by super cars.
A lot of specialist division members can’t afford upgrades, so they should be eligible for certain upgrades. Of course there can be a certain system such as the more you serve in that division, the more upgrades you receive.
Overall a decent suggestion, but there can be a little more thought put into it as you don’t want fresh division members maxing out their vehicles.
Itay, they wouldn’t pay for it. As long as they use the upgrades, then they should get them.
go do heists
it was added to make money
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